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Re: la mulana 2 cutey club
« Reply #120 on: August 11, 2018, 03:08:08 AM »
in la-mulana 1 (or the remake at least) the giants are referred to as "brothers" and they are always referred to with he/him/his pronouns in the tablets but in la-mulana 2 ledo is a girl.... thinking emoji

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Re: la mulana 2 cutey club
« Reply #121 on: August 11, 2018, 04:31:28 AM »
It's probably just a translation thing where they assumed "kyoudai" was "brothers," But Still

EDIT: Found the line, and I'm exactly right, plus there aren't any gendered words about Ledo. But Trans In English
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Re: la mulana 2 cutey club
« Reply #122 on: August 11, 2018, 05:37:07 AM »
i figured it was a translation thing but i like that interpretation of the english version.... it fits well with the fact that abuto recorded the history of the giants, and he clearly disliked ledo since he forced/manipulated sakit into killing her

also what does it even mean that ledo is sakits "wife". my thoughts went from "oh thats normal and makes sense" to "wait did sakit marry his sister??" "wait thats probably okay if your society only has nine people in it who are all born from the same entity" "wait why and how do they even have marriage"

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Re: la mulana 2 cutey club
« Reply #123 on: August 11, 2018, 05:53:56 AM »
I dunno, but there's at least one married couple among the First Children (Izanagi and Izanami), so the concept could've persisted from there??

Also, I forget with all the Puzzle Knowledge pushing it out, but I want to say La-Mulana 2 does say there were more giants than just the nine, and those were just the last. "Siblings" could arguably be metaphorical as well.

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Re: la mulana 2 cutey club
« Reply #124 on: August 11, 2018, 05:59:52 AM »
i played a bit of lm1 again tonight and actually, the nine named giants were the first:
"We are the second race born of the great Mother. We were created in order to return the Mother to the heavens. Let me tell you the sad tale of our race. The race began with nine brothers: Zebu, Bado, Migela, Ledo, Futo, Abuto, Ji, Ribu, and Sakit."
there must have been more but they would have come after the original nine (born from the survivors of the giants conflict or something), unless lm2 retconned that (i cant remember if it did)

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Re: la mulana 2 cutey club
« Reply #125 on: August 11, 2018, 06:04:17 AM »
Again, might have been a translation-based "retcon." The Japanese doesn't say they "began" it, but "governed it" (一族を治めた). I still might have misremembered the LM2 stuff.

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Re: la mulana 2 cutey club
« Reply #126 on: August 11, 2018, 06:11:58 AM »
oh, interesting..... i also just realized lm2 says abuto was the last giant to have lived (in his inscription in the la-mulana ruins) so i think you were right that they were the last of their race

i also have a note saying that bergelmir is the first of the frost giants, so thats at least one other named giant.... mimir might have been a giant too but i cant remember