All To Get Her

[vgperson]

Actually, you could place a bomb up there, then drop it through using Danger. And you can even have it land on the iron box and push it left so it actually gets used meaningfully. So there's another thing for Completely Destroying The Game Using Excess Bombs.

You know, I wonder if there's anywhere you can blow out into empty screens horizontally, because those sides aren't blocked...

EDIT: Looks like if you could blow rightward out of Area 5 somewhere (5-3? 5-8?), you could drop into 6-1 and have no trouble because that level doesn't require limit-broken spells, and limit break gets set in 6-2. Leftward doesn't seem to work - there is technically an opening, but you can't remotely make it.

And now I'm wondering if there's something absurd you can do with Berserk and the fact that exiting left/right/up will "prevent" the other girl from exiting down...

[juner]

oh yay i was wondering if you might try a single segment speedrun!
it's a very fun & impressive speedgame to watch, kinda wanna give it a go but i should probably beat all the staff times first...

[aimaina]

bomb notes

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you can finish 4-4 with +1 bomb
you can finish 4-6 with +1 bomb with a slower route
you can finish 4-8 with +1 bomb, or +2 bombs with a slower route
monster door in 4-9 can be skipped with 3 bombs, probably not worth it
4-10 has a skip (-1 bomb)
you can exit area 4 with 3 extra bombs (slow), 2 extra bombs (normal), or 1 extra bomb (4-10 skip)
5-1 has a skip (-1 bomb)
5-4 has a skip (-1 bomb)
5-5 has a skip (-1 bomb)
5-8 has a skip (-1 bomb)
6-3 has a skip (-1 bomb)
6-10 has a skip (-1 bomb)
wonder what the fastest route is.... you can either slow down in a4 and do 3 skips or go at normal pace and do 2 skips.....
i dont know how much time the skips save & its hard to figure it out because you cant tt levels with extra bombs

[aimaina]

oh yeah you can escape to the right of 5-3 (using only two bombs even, thanks to destroy) and get to 6-1

[aimaina]

you can even take a shortcut in 6-1 because you have destroy instead of unmake

but uh, beating 6-1 doesnt spawn you in 6-2

[vgperson]

Well, geez. (And the 6-1 bug is actually fixed in the newest version - someone found a different thing to get the wrong characters in a finale level, so I made it always take you to the right level based on position instead of characters.)

So should I put indestructible blocks on the left and right too?? I mean, it's clever, but it's a huge skip.

[aimaina]

its up 2 you.... i like skips and im still kinda sad you took out the 4-3 to 4-8 one

[aimaina]

i guess it does make routing a lot less interesting because its just "do the huge skip" instead of "which combination of extra bomb strats and small skips saves the most time"

[aimaina]

i think the best solution would be to figure out where all the accessible empty screens are and make them into secret rooms with cute stuff in em but thats a lot of extra work

[vgperson]

That's not a bad solution - I could just do one for 5-3 if that's the only place you can do a major skip from. I'd just have to make sure it didn't save there.

[aimaina]

oh you can finish 3-10 with 2 extra portaboxes..... wonder where the best place to use them is or if its even worth the extra time

[aimaina]

i think you can also break out to the right from 5-5 (and do the same skip) and break out to the left from several places ("A Good Reason", 5-7, 5-8, 6-1, 6-2) so just making left/right walls indestructible is probably easiest.....

[vgperson]

Aw, man. I guess this'll never see the light of day...

[aimaina]

maybe make it so if u enter an empty screen in any way, it fades out and u end up at the cute room..... and theres a teleporter back to whatever level you were in or something.... not sure how hard that would be

[vgperson]

Ah yes, the Christina Houlihan Room.

Nah, I just added in the borders and I think it's the best way. I probably could do something like that, but it just seems weird, and getting the finale fades to work was iffy enough already. And it would be super bizarre to have that happen in the editor (though I could just disable it there).